[racket] Math Guidance

> Unless you are headed for CS grad school or  are Google/Microsoft material (by ability
> or by being in a brand name school) nobody really cares about your CS degree.
I'm a self-taught programmer that would love to get an entry-level
programming job. I've yet to see a job listing that doesn't ask for a
degree in CS, or some kind of technical degree in programming. (Not
that I look *very* hard.)

I guess I could spend time on rent-a-coder or something but
practically speaking, it seems to me like everyone cares about a CS
*degree*, even if they then summarily ignore what was ostensibly
taught for the degree.

Deren

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:58 AM, wooks . <wookiz at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry if you got this twice..... I think my first reply missed the list.
>
> Well you will note that the first link was from an American source.
>
> If you google "hi tech underclass" China comes up alot.
>
> Then there is this
>
> ABSTRACT
>
> The primary aim of this paper is to identify future help which can
> contribute
> towards reducing the unemployment rate of graduates in Malaysia, especially
> those with
> Computer Science Degrees. It does so by gaining initial insights into this
> problem
> through two groups: graduates and employers. The data draws on why graduates
> are
> unemployed from their own perspective as well as employers’ expectations
> towards the
> new workforce. The study concludes with two striking observations. Firstly,
> the
> graduates themselves feel that they are to be blamed for being unemployed.
> In addition,
> the employers too feel similarly, so reinforcing graduates’ attitudes as one
> of the major
> reasons for graduates’ unemployment.
>
> link to the paper below.
>
> http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ej8fSFctCRMJ:aabss.org/Perspectives2008/AABSS2008Article6NORSHIMAZSHAH.pdf+graduate+unemployment+computer+science&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjDKecXPDAO072-bMR-QpeeVE2OAouJBnyX8hFhKddBZOYkvX7w0gn4xOonMlWUzA3tQ9SD9-NqxCZFc19ZxxBvnHt9E_oRl4J56n6dM1Sn_a4A_QVWI7Gvn-DytljNRxK5IxAS&sig=AHIEtbRX6abLpTRll1r47KDYML4wdFWl6Q
>
> To selectively quote
>
> "While the situation in the United States may not be so dire, in truth few
> companies share Google's zeal for academic credentials when hiring new
> developers. "
> .........
> "To be sure, an advanced degree in computer science from a prestigious
> university such as Cal Tech, Carnegie-Mellon, or Stanford is still a
> valuable asset for any job-seeker. Companies such as IBM, Google, and
> Microsoft, which compete on the highest levels of the computing industry,
> rely on doctoral graduates for the groundbreaking R&D that forms the basis
> of their cutting-edge products. Smaller companies with less ambitious goals,
> on the other hand, may have little need for such specialized expertise,
> particularly if they aren't in the business of selling software."
>
> I think those are killer arguments.
>
> Unless you are headed for CS grad school or  are Google/Microsoft material
> (by ability or by being in a brand name school) nobody really cares about
> your CS degree.
>
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> Matthias said
>
>
> Is this possibly a reflection on the UK system?
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