[plt-scheme] planet: help submitting bugs & a question

I can see how what I wrote was perhaps unclear. I meant the person
whose machine actually has the contract violation. Carl also seems to
mean that. Clear now?

Robby

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Felix Klock's PLT scheme proxy
<pltscheme at pnkfx.org> wrote:
> Robby: "I meant the user of the planet package (a programmer), not an end
> user of the software."
>
> Carl: "it is the end user who matters ... Any time a program crashes in
> Windows or Mac OS, I get asked if I want to send the bug report to Microsoft
> or Apple respectively, and it's not like the OS knows I'm a programmer"
>
> Robby: "Are we not all saying the same thing?"
>
> I think you two definitely are *not* saying the same thing.  (All of the
> above quotes appear in context below.)
>
> -Felix, (who agrees with Carl, for the record)
>
> On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Robby Findler wrote:
>
>> Yes, yes. All along: the person who gets the error message gets to
>> decide to submit it. Are we not all saying the same thing?
>>
>> Robby
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Carl Eastlund <cce at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Robby Findler <robby at cs.uchicago.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Grant Rettke <grettke at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How would a user know what they should and they should not send when a
>>>>> contract is violated? It would be confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry -- we seem to be miscommunicating.
>>>>
>>>> When I wrote "user" I meant the user of the planet package (a
>>>> programmer), not an end user of the software.
>>>
>>> Wait... I think it is the end user who matters.  If Albert writes an
>>> encryption routine, and Bob uses it to write an online store, and Curt
>>> tries to buy something and it hits a bug, we should ask Curt if he
>>> wants to send the error report so he can say "no, don't send any data,
>>> I just typed my credit card number in".  We don't want to send Curt's
>>> credit information to Bob and ask him if Al can have it; Bob shouldn't
>>> have it to begin with.
>>>
>>> Curt doesn't have to know any technical details, he just needs to know
>>> whether or not the application involved had any private data.  Any
>>> time a program crashes in Windows or Mac OS, I get asked if I want to
>>> send the bug report to Microsoft or Apple respectively, and it's not
>>> like the OS knows I'm a programmer.  The same principle applies to
>>> Planet and PLT.
>>>
>>> --Carl
>>>
>>>
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