[plt-scheme] planet: help submitting bugs & a question

Robby: "I meant the user of the planet package (a programmer), not an  
end user of the software."

Carl: "it is the end user who matters ... Any time a program crashes  
in Windows or Mac OS, I get asked if I want to send the bug report to  
Microsoft or Apple respectively, and it's not like the OS knows I'm a  
programmer"

Robby: "Are we not all saying the same thing?"

I think you two definitely are *not* saying the same thing.  (All of  
the above quotes appear in context below.)

-Felix, (who agrees with Carl, for the record)

On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Robby Findler wrote:

> Yes, yes. All along: the person who gets the error message gets to
> decide to submit it. Are we not all saying the same thing?
>
> Robby
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Carl Eastlund <cce at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Robby Findler  
>> <robby at cs.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Grant Rettke <grettke at acm.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How would a user know what they should and they should not send  
>>>> when a
>>>> contract is violated? It would be confusing.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry -- we seem to be miscommunicating.
>>>
>>> When I wrote "user" I meant the user of the planet package (a
>>> programmer), not an end user of the software.
>>
>> Wait... I think it is the end user who matters.  If Albert writes an
>> encryption routine, and Bob uses it to write an online store, and  
>> Curt
>> tries to buy something and it hits a bug, we should ask Curt if he
>> wants to send the error report so he can say "no, don't send any  
>> data,
>> I just typed my credit card number in".  We don't want to send Curt's
>> credit information to Bob and ask him if Al can have it; Bob  
>> shouldn't
>> have it to begin with.
>>
>> Curt doesn't have to know any technical details, he just needs to  
>> know
>> whether or not the application involved had any private data.  Any
>> time a program crashes in Windows or Mac OS, I get asked if I want to
>> send the bug report to Microsoft or Apple respectively, and it's not
>> like the OS knows I'm a programmer.  The same principle applies to
>> Planet and PLT.
>>
>> --Carl
>>
>>
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