[plt-scheme] Re: An Editors Tale

Hi Paulo, hi Shiram,

no I didn't take offense, just to let you know.

Shiram, if you've followed my previous posts there is one where I'm complaining a bit about it beeing very hard to use DrScheme for GUI development. I've had a nice reply from Matthias about it.

See the thing is I feel quite similar to the guy who started this thread. I've come to appreciate CL and Scheme *very* much but with DrScheme and PLT I must say that although I learned a lot, I can not see my self *producing* any software any time soon. And I do consider that important too.

In one of my last posts I said that I was going to leave Scheme and CL alone for now in favour of the .NET stuff.

Paulo I'm personaly a penguin too, but after reading the FAQs on http://go-mono.net I got more comfortable touching .NET and using VS for it.
The thing is I am sick and tired of *having* to go everywhere by foot when programming, and VS takes a lot of this hazzle away. I've done the 'by foot' thing long enough!

Computers are machines they "should" make things *easer*, that's the original idea behind it and not steal your time from you.
It sometimes seems that if it's got all those things that make things easier, *some* people seem to think well this doesn't have blood, sweat and tears to it so it's not proper programming and we won't have it.
Sorry I do not share that view.

Best regards

Guenther


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>>Hi Paulo,
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>>>That's not portable. :( And I don't use MS products anyway. What gets to
>>>be done in the sure should be portable for the sake of DrScheme
>>>portability fame.
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>>1. Guenther asked for a plugin for VS .NET.  I'm fairly sure he knew
>>this wouldn't be portable. (-:
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> Indeed, however, what I meant was that if a concentrated effort is to be
> made to improving scheme GUI quality, that it should be portable. Sorry,
> don't take me wrong. 
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>>2. You're welcome to not use MS products.  I'm not sure what that has
>>to do with anything.
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> Like I said, if it's to be used by everyone, it is likely that some
> don't use MS, so portable is better. :D but I understand a VS plugin
> would be nice for those using MS.
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>>3. Everything produced here is either a volunteer or research effort.
>>Neither of those is particularly open to dictates.  Of course,
>>whatever you contribute, you're welcome to make highly portable....
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> Indeed, after sending the email I regret it since I was too harsh. I
> didn't meant it to be that way. 
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>>4. PLT already produces non-portable products such as MysterX
>>(connection to ActiveX).
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>>In short, let's not get into MS vs anti-MS battles here.
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> Not my intention at all. Afterall Scheme should be everywhere, MS and
> non-MS, but if the DrScheme GUI is to change its interface I hope it's
> into a portable system. :) Don't want or like MS vs anti-MS battles,
> don't take me wrong.
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>>Shriram