[racket] racket project idea: viable html5 web browser
I'm interested.
But I'm very duobt, that it is possible in only 6 months. Video is quite easy with extarnal dll's, but fully standard-compatible JS and CSS (we even dont' have full XML library with XPath, XSLT, DOM!)
Понедельник, 3 февраля 2014, 17:04 -05:00 от Neil Van Dyke <neil at neilvandyke.org>:
>I'm just putting this idea out there, to see whether anyone is seriously
>interested...
>
>I'd like to see a few attempts to make a *viable* secure HTML5 Web
>browser, using Racket or Haskell. HTML5 with JS, CSS layout, local
>storage, but no sound or video for now. Fully GNU-style Free Software,
>and not biased by any commercial conflicts of interest. Internally
>secure and stable in ways that current browsers clearly are not.
>
>If you need to ask why, look at the constant stream of Web browser
>security exploits, the *multi-gigabyte* source code bases of C and C++
>code, how Firefox's ongoing dependence on recent system library versions
>makes it hard for stable GNU/Linux distros to maintain a browser with
>security updates, etc. Modern browser implementations have become
>monstrosities beyond what is necessary for the Web standards they have
>to support. (Also, a viable Web browser is the current big
>implementation barrier to a general-purpose desktop/handheld OS that has
>the entire userspace implemented in Racket or Haskell, straight atop the
>Linux kernel. But for now, think of it as a standalone app.)
>
>Myself, I'm *not* looking for a "hey, we can kinda make a toy browser in
>Racket good enough to get a paper out of it", nor "hey, a few people
>attempted Web browsers of some kind, I don't know how far they got,
>maybe we could start with one of those", nor "it can start out as a
>student exercise but take over the world 10 years later like Linux
>did." Rather, I am looking for something that is done from the start to
>be viable in the near term as a primary desktop and handheld Web browser
>(excepting sound&video for now).
>
>If a couple people are seriously up to sacrificing their evenings and
>weekends on this for a year, then I can help with architecture and some
>key components, but I don't have time for attempts that aren't
>credible. If we could get to the point that we've demonstrated
>brilliance and solid progress, and have a credible 6-month plan for
>completion of a viable browser, then there is an angle I could try to
>get funding, to pay the contributors to keep going at that point. (I
>wouldn't try to get funding from the start, because the project wouldn't
>be taken seriously until we have something impressive to show, and the
>timeline is too long and unpredictable at the start.)
>
>Let me know if you'd like to talk about this.
>
>Separately, everyone should be encouraged to write a toy Web browser.
>It's one of those toy programs that everyone should write, as a fun
>learning exercise. (Previously, such programs have been text editor, CD
>player, Scheme interpreter, compiler, kernel, X window manager, etc.).
>But this toy is separate from above, where I'm talking about something
>that is not a toy.
>
>Neil V.
>
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