[plt-scheme] Replace & Find in v4.1

From: Robby Findler (robby at cs.uchicago.edu)
Date: Thu Aug 14 16:42:25 EDT 2008

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Ben Goetter <goetter at mazama.net> wrote:
> Thank you, your explanation does indeed help.  So Edit/Find defines a
> sequence of matches in a pane, and then Edit/Find Again iterates through
> that sequence, selecting the text of a particular match.  And
> Edit/ReplaceXxx is only operative with a text selection (and a matching
> selection, at that), not just a match sequence.  I see.  Sorry to be obtuse.

Not at all. I think that this find and replace implementation is
better than what we had before, but it is still rough in a few ways.
I've struggled to find the right balance of keybindings/operations to
keep it both simple and useful.

> And this explains the problem!  The "Find" button in the search pane is
> really performing Edit/Find Again.

Right. Gee, that's confusing. Duh. I should make that say "Find Again".

> However, when performing this task via
> button click, there is no highlight drawn in the pane corresponding to the
> selected match.  Thus also with the "Replace & Find" button.  It is only
> operative with a text selection.  However, text selections made via the
> "Find" button (as opposed to the Edit/Find Again menu item) are not
> highlighted visibly; and the subsequent selection of the next match by
> "Replace & Find" is not visibly highlighted, either.

There should be. If the focus is in the window where you're searching,
you should see the selection move. If the focus is in the search
window, you should see a tan circle moving around inside the purple
circles. Maybe that is just too light somehow?

Robby

> Ben
>
> Robby Findler wrote:
>>
>> The replace is always available when the selection (in the window
>> where you'd be replacing) matches what you are searching for.
>> Otherwise, it is not available.
>>
>> Does that help?
>>
>> Robby
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Ben Goetter <goetter at mazama.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have tried it, and I'm afraid it doesn't make much more sense to me.
>>>  The
>>> behavior - both with anchors enabled and disabled - seems inconsistent:
>>> sometimes the Replace commands I want are available, and sometimes they
>>> aren't.  I am having a very difficult time deducing the desired behavior
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Robby Findler wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The (perhaps only slightly) more sensical generalization of those
>>>> rules is that when the selection matches the search string, you can
>>>> replace & find (so when the search string is empty and you don't have
>>>> any thing selected, it will replace nothing with the replace string).
>>>>
>>>> Did you try the anchor'd search? Do you find that to be more intuitive?
>>>>
>>>> Robby
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ben Goetter <goetter at mazama.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On the same platform, I am observing the same behavior.  Start
>>>>> DrScheme,
>>>>> then type a little searchable gibberish into the Defs and Ints panes,
>>>>> then
>>>>> make the Find and Replace fields appear with Ctrl+f or Ctrl+r.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have no text in the Find field, the Replace menu items are
>>>>> enabled.
>>>>> Clicking the "Replace and Find" button will then append the contents of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Replace field to the Definitions or Interactions pane, whichever last
>>>>> had
>>>>> focus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once text goes into the Find field, occurrences of that text will be
>>>>> highlighted in one of the panes, and the Replace items under the Edit
>>>>> menu
>>>>> will be disabled.  Clicking the Replace and Find button then does
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robby Findler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you put some text into the replace field?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robby
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Robert Matovinovic
>>>>>> <robert.matovinovic at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I run DrScheme, version 4.1 [3m] on Windows XP and wonder where to
>>>>>>> activate
>>>>>>> Replace & Find. The button in the search dialog doesn't react and the
>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>> items in the edit menu are grey. I looked up Preferences ... and Help
>>>>>>> Desk
>>>>>>> but I couldn't find any hint. What am I missing? If it is not a bug
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> switch should be in a more obvious place.
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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