[racket-dev] package install mode

I repent.  While a reversible (install/uninstall)  system-wide build /
install from source has some value in cases, I now doubt there is adequate
ROEMOF, return on effort and maintenance of feature.

Overall, for me, a trimmer "core" Racket installation is for more valuable.


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Eli Barzilay <eli at barzilay.org> wrote:

> Yesterday, Ray Racine wrote:
> > On installation issues:
> >
> > 1) Yes on defaulting to an installation-wide install as default.
>
> Matthew didn't suggest this as a default for all cases -- but just to
> be clear: an installation-wide as default is not something that is
> always better.  In fact, it is in many cases worse.  For example, on
> Linux (and probably on OSX) you can end up with permission errors,
> which can easily lead people down the usual path of sudo-ing the
> command which now means running random code as root (and most people
> would do a sudo since that doesn't require reading more, and will miss
> whatever flags are needed for private installation).  Another example
> is what can happen on Windows -- wither get some intimidating popup
> telling you about changing system directories, or worse, get the
> "feature" of windows pretending to save files in the right place but
> really putting them in your own directory.
>
>
> > 3) Many (even most) of the collections library are non-core and IMHO
> > should be evicted out into separate github hosted projects with
> > drop-dead simple installation via Planet2 on demand.  I know this
> > sounds harsh, but collects is over due for a healthy paring, if not
> > a full blown gastric by-pass.
>
> Absolutely.  There are many sub-packages in the core now that got in
> based on the assumption that they'll turn into independent packages.
> There are also some people (ahem) who were screaming for ages about
> bad spaghetti dependency graphs which will cause huge problems when
> trying to get to a small core.
>
> (/me does an image query for "repent".)
>
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