[racket-dev] Planet 2 Beta Release

Perhaps we want a GUI Planet2 installation tool?  And options for
auto-install from DrRacket to be silent, confirm/cancel, or auto-fail?
That would give us the range from full manual control to automatic
"Something Good happens", all without command lines.

Carl Eastlund


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Robby Findler
<robby at eecs.northwestern.edu>wrote:

> I think it is important that you can get a program from the web, put
> it into DrRacket, hit run, and get Something Good to happen, without
> having to go type at command lines and whatnot. (This is especially
> true for Windows, the platform something like 95% of our users use.)
>
> Robby
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <samth at ccs.neu.edu>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jay McCarthy <jay.mccarthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <samth at ccs.neu.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > [replying just to a few of these]
> >
> >>> * I think we should drop the `.plt` archive format entirely.
> >>
> >> It is the default because Racket can create it and unarchive it
> >> natively. If someone implements a native Racket zipper/unzipper, that
> >> would be great. My understanding is that this is on Eli's todo list
> >> and when it is done, it would be great to change Planet 2's default.
> >
> > Hopefully this can happen before Planet 2's release, so it wouldn't
> > need to support .plt at all.
> >
> >>> * It would be nice to have fewer special files.  For example,
> >>> `MANIFEST` could be abolished by just fetching the whole content of
> >>> the directory.  Checksums could be included in the `METADATA` file.
> >>
> >> The manifest is necessary because there's no reliable way to get a
> >> directory list from a Web site.
> >
> > Then I would just suggest dropping the web-directory fetching instead,
> > and just support archives at URLs.
> >
> >>> * In section 3.1, you should have 'git push -u origin master'.
> >>
> >> This is directly from the Github docs:
> >> https://help.github.com/articles/create-a-repo
> >
> > If you create a fresh repo on GH, you get instructions with the `-u`
> > option -- I'm surprised that they haven't updated the help site.
> >
> >>> * I thought the conclusion of a recent discussion on dev@ was that
> >>> tests, typed, etc sub-collections *are* preferred.
> >>
> >> I think I missed this conversation. I don't understand the conclusion
> >> given that we don't want to always distribute tests, for example.
> >
> > This discussion was here:
> > http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev/archive/2012-October/010507.html
> >
> > I'm not sure there was a definitive conclusion, but Robby/Eli/Matthias
> > seems to be on the sub-collection side.
> >
> >>> * Can the Planet1 compatibility also have a version-less translation
> >>> for the latest version, so that `jaymccarthy/opencl/module` could keep
> >>> working?
> >>
> >> I don't want that version-less one to conflict with any of the other
> >> ones so that Planet 1 packages that rely on multiple versions will
> >> work. Am I missing a part of the request?
> >
> > I'm just suggesting that `../opencl` and `.../opencl1` should both exist.
> >
> >>> * I think the auto-installing module resolver mentioned in "Short
> >>> Term" is a bad idea -- it's already really easy to install packages
> >>> with this system, and auto-installation just introduces possibility
> >>> for headaches.
> >>
> >> I don't think it is *bad* idea, but I also don't think it is
> >> *necessary*. But there are other people in the Racket group who think
> >> this is totally necessary for Planet 2. I'll let them explain why.
> >
> > I'll look forward to that explanation.
> > --
> > sam th
> > samth at ccs.neu.edu
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