<div dir="ltr">Forgot to cc: list, sorry...<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM, John Clements <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnbclements@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnbclements@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jay McCarthy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jay.mccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.mccarthy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, John Clements <<a href="mailto:johnbclements@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnbclements@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > Wow! I really like the new package system!<br> ><br> > Okay, now I'm going to complain...<br> ><br> > I'm having trouble with <a href="http://pkgs.racket-lang.org" target="_blank">pkgs.racket-lang.org</a>, and it's affecting my classes.<br> ><br> > The issue here is that the catalog doesn't seem to have picked up my last<br> > change to the rsound package, made some time yesterday. In particular, I had<br> > to roll back two packages, portaudio and rsound, and portaudio got rolled<br> > back but not rsound, which means that the pkg-reported current version of<br> > rsound (16a1959962f) (as opposed to the github-reported current version of<br> > ((0e28de6c)) now has a dependency on a version of portaudio (1.0.1) that is<br> > no longer available. (This can also be seen by the build status of rsound,<br> > which is now shown on <a href="http://pkgs.racket-lang.org" target="_blank">pkgs.racket-lang.org</a> as failing.)<br> ><br> > I've tried to update using the web page, with not so much success.<br> > Yesterday, the web page was getting stuck at the "logging in..." phase; I<br> > waited for ... 10 minutes? No joy. Today, I'm seeing the same thing, though<br> > 20 minutes ago I saw a successful login, with a thin yellow banner<br> > indicating that an update was in progress.<br> ><br> > Perhaps the answer here is to host my own catalog for my students. I spent<br> > 10 minutes looking into this, but I got stuck when it turned out that<br> > pkgs/meta/pkg-catalog/ isn't actually part of my installation.<br> <br> </span>The catalog protocol [1] is extremely easy to implement by hand. If<br> you have a public_html setup in your university's Web machine, here's<br> what you do:<br> <br> mkdir public_html/catalog<br> cd public_html/catalog<br> cat > rsound <<END<br> #hash((source . "github:///")(checksum . "deadbeef"))<br> END<br> cat > portaudio <<END<br> #hash((source . "github:///")(checksum . "deadbeef"))<br> END<br> <br> You now have a catalog! Tell your students to add<br> "<a href="http://xxx/~mcjbc/catalog" target="_blank">http://xxx/~mcjbc/catalog</a>" and you're in business. (When you make a<br> commit change the checksum string.)<br> <br> 1. <a href="http://docs.racket-lang.org/pkg/catalog-protocol.html?q=catalog" target="_blank">http://docs.racket-lang.org/pkg/catalog-protocol.html?q=catalog</a><br> <span><br> > Another solution would be to manually instruct my students to paste the<br> > github reference into the "do what I mean" box, but I suspect this would<br> > lead to confusion and unhappiness in the medium term.<br> <br> </span>This is the easiest thing to do in your case, because if they have a<br> "github" package installed, then when you tell them to "update" the<br> turn-around time would be instant.<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div></div></div><div>Yes, I see. One caveat, for those reading along at home: entering the GitHub URL directly and clicking "update" results in the following error:<br><br>Resolving "rsound" via <a href="http://download.racket-lang.org/releases/6.1/catalog/" target="_blank">http://download.racket-lang.org/releases/6.1/catalog/</a><br>Resolving "rsound" via <a href="http://pkgs.racket-lang.org" target="_blank">http://pkgs.racket-lang.org</a><br>Updating:<br> rsound<br>Resolving "rsound" via <a href="http://download.racket-lang.org/releases/6.1/catalog/" target="_blank">http://download.racket-lang.org/releases/6.1/catalog/</a><br>Resolving "rsound" via <a href="http://pkgs.racket-lang.org" target="_blank">http://pkgs.racket-lang.org</a><br>Using cached14134772981413477298507 for <a href="https://github.com/jbclements/RSound/tarball/16a1959962f5dd8c29e3ea6bf1bb1d9d3bb569ee" target="_blank">https://github.com/jbclements/RSound/tarball/16a1959962f5dd8c29e3ea6bf1bb1d9d3bb569ee</a><br>DrRacket update: version mismatch for dependency<br> for package: rsound<br> mismatch packages:<br> portaudio (have 0.1, need 1.0.1)<br><br></div><div>This error message did not immediately help me.<br></div><div><br>After more poking around, I see that (apparently) I need to uninstall the old version first, which does make some sense. <br><br></div><div>I propose the following change to the interface: when someone enters a different source for a package that's already installed, the default action should not be "upgrade". Instead, the default action should probably be: pop up a message box saying that this package is already installed, and that if you want to use a different source, you should uninstall the existing one first.<br><br>Does that make sense to you?<br></div><span class=""><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span> > So: if there's a good way to poke <a href="http://pkgs.racket-lang.org" target="_blank">pkgs.racket-lang.org</a> to pick up the new<br> > version of rsound, I'd love to hear it.<br> ><br> > Thanks again for all the hard work! It keeps getting better!<br> ><br> > John<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> </span>> ____________________<br> > Racket Users list:<br> > <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/users" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/users</a><br> ><br> <span><font color="#888888"><br> <br> <br> --<br> Jay McCarthy<br> <a href="http://jeapostrophe.github.io" target="_blank">http://jeapostrophe.github.io</a><br> <br> "Wherefore, be not weary in well-doing,<br> for ye are laying the foundation of a great work.<br> And out of small things proceedeth that which is great."<br> - D&C 64:33<br> </font></span></blockquote></span></div><br></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div>