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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This would alleviate the confusion,
thank you! But I agree that now is an awkward time to push the
change: many schools are just starting their semester, and a
change at this point may make some notes obsolete right at the
beginning of the semester. <br>
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My students should be ok at this point: we have sorted out the
confusion already, so no need for an upgrade on our behalf (but we
will get it once it becomes available). <br>
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Thanks!<br>
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Elena<br>
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On 9/8/2013 7:32 PM, Robby Findler wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Okay, I've made a first attempt on two changes
aimed at fixing these problems.
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<div>1) change the "image.rkt" to "htdp/image.rkt" and
"2htdp/image.rkt" so there are no names that are exactly the
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<div>2) have the teachpack dialog be sensitive to the already
installed teachpacks and give a warning when a new one would
conflict with an old.</div>
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<div>Here's a screenshot:</div>
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<div>showing what I imagine happening when you click on the
2htdp/image.rkt teachpack when you have the htdp/image.rkt one
already installed.</div>
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<div>(I would have pushed this already, but there are a few GUI
niceties that I want to do before pushing.)</div>
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<div>I'm slightly worried about 1) because there may be course
notes out there that tell people "choose the image.rkt
teachpack in the left column" that would have to be changed
and thus would annoy instructors. Your opinions on this point
welcome.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Elena
Machkasova <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Thanks, Robby and Marco! <br>
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Yes, such things may be difficult to change - that's
totally understandable! I think a significant part of
the confusion is that these teachpacks are listed under
"Pre-installed" which seems to mean that they are
already there when DrRacket is installed, and that there
are two teachpacks with the same name. Perhaps using
wording other than "pre-installed" and renaming one of
the taechpacks (if possible; I know that sometimes there
are dependencies that make it very difficult) would
help. <br>
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I posted a detailed clarification for my students, and
hopefully they are all set. <br>
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And I generally don't ask them to remove teachpacks
either, but once they've added the wrong one (and many
of them added both), it's easier at this point to just
clear all and add it again than to make sure that they
remove the one they should. <br>
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Thanks!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Elena</font></span>
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On 9/6/2013 9:49 PM, Robby Findler wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Unfortunately, this is the way things
work. Those are actually two different teachpacks
and the error message that you are getting is a
poorly worded "these two teachpacks conflict with
each other".
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<div>Is there perhaps some other behavior you'd
prefer?</div>
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<div>And, I should also point that even if we do
find some fix, there is little chance that our
release schedule can be adjusted to respond to
your lab installation schedule, I'm sorry to
say.</div>
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9:29 PM, Elena Machkasova <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Good evening,<br>
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this may've come up before, but I looked
through the last few messages and did a bit of
searching, and couldn't find anything about
this problem. My apologies if this is already
a known issue.<br>
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When DrRacket is installed, it comes with 3
pre-installed teachpacks, including image.rkt.
However, image functions (rotate, square, etc)
are undefined. Installing the teachpack from
the middle column in the "add teachpack" list
fixes the issue.<br>
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However, if the user then tries to add the
teachpack and happens to click on it in the
first column, they get an error message
"module: identifier already imported from a
different source". The solution that seems to
work then is to clear both teachpacks and then
install the one in the middle column.<br>
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This behavior takes place for both Racket
5.3.4 and 5.3.6, for Windows and Linux (Fedora
18). I don't know if it's happening on a Mac
as well.<br>
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If there is a plan to fix it in the next
release, could you let me know? We might wait
a couple of weeks to upgrade our lab to 5.3.6
is we can get an upgrade with this issue
fixed.<br>
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Many thanks!<br>
<br>
Elena<br>
University of Minnesota, Morris<br>
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