<div dir="ltr">For what it's worth, the url in the query section is used for redirection after shibboleth authentication at a large institution. I don't anticipate that changing. I do think, however, that what strikes me as an increasing preponderance of 'creative' url interpretation in the age of SAAS may make a case for greater control over the path/query/fragment portion of the url, whether or not that falls under the official heading of net/'url's. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <<a href="mailto:samth@ccs.neu.edu" target="_blank">samth@ccs.neu.edu</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">First, I think in this particular case the RFCs agree with Evan here. In particular, see section 3.4 of RFC 3896: <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-3.4" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-3.4</a> which defines query strings as containing a sequence of either 'pchar', "/" or "?", where 'pchar' includes ":", ascii alphanumeric characters, "." and 'sub-delims', which includes "=". Second, you (and I) may not like the specification style demonstrated in the URL spec, but that's the direction that a lot of web standards are going. You can see it in the HTML spec, too: <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/</a> . These are the specifications that implementors of web browsers and web servers are paying attention to and contributing to, and thus they're the ones we need to pay attention to. Sam <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay.mccarthy@gmail.com">jay.mccarthy@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > This debate is bigger than you and me, but I don't see a spec here. I > see a weird pseudo-code parsing algorithm with no specification. In > any case, the net/url module implements the RFCs. If those aren't what > you want, then it needs to be changed or a new module needs to be > implemented. Given the big different between the RFCs and this new > "specification", I gather there won't be a lot of shared code. > > Jay > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <<a href="mailto:samth@ccs.neu.edu">samth@ccs.neu.edu</a>> wrote: >> I'm not sure which spec you're looking at from there, but the URL spec >> that I linked to is the most current work on precisely specifying >> URLs. >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay.mccarthy@gmail.com">jay.mccarthy@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>> I'm looking at the spec: <a href="http://www.w3.org/Addressing/" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/Addressing/</a> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <<a href="mailto:samth@ccs.neu.edu">samth@ccs.neu.edu</a>> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay.mccarthy@gmail.com">jay.mccarthy@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Evan Donahue <<a href="mailto:emdonahu@gmail.com">emdonahu@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, I am trying to use the racket networking libraries for a basic set of >>>>>> get and post requests. I need to send a url of the form: >>>>>> >>>>>> <a href="http://foo.com/?url=http://bar.com?baz=1000" target="_blank">http://foo.com/?url=http://bar.com?baz=1000</a> (NOT form encoded) >>>>> >>>>> As far as I can tell from URL specs, this is not a URL. >>>> >>>> I don't think that's correct. In particular, see >>>> <a href="http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#query-state" target="_blank">http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#query-state</a> and step 3 there, as well as >>>> the definition on URL code point here: >>>> <a href="http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#url-code-points" target="_blank">http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#url-code-points</a> which includes all of the >>>> characters in Evan's query. >>>> >>>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay@cs.byu.edu">jay@cs.byu.edu</a>> >>> Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University >>> <a href="http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay" target="_blank">http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay</a> >>> >>> "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 > > > > -- > Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay@cs.byu.edu">jay@cs.byu.edu</a>> > Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University > <a href="http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay" target="_blank">http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay</a> > > "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>