<div class="iw_mail" dir="LTR" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;font-size: 13px;">Hi Noob,<div><br></div><div>I believe I mentioned before that I had some trouble with the web development docs myself. However, after thinking it over a bit, I decided to invest more time in learning the language. It occurred to me that in order to really take advantage of the web server, I would need to become a lot more familiar with the advanced language concepts it is based on. I'm finding that as I gain knowledge and experience, my ability to understand the docs improves. The point I'm trying to make here is that without the language foundation, it is just magical code. This is true with or without a beginners guide. I would actually vote for a more thorough treatment of the language itself documentation wise. How would one hope to use a continuation based server effectively without a thorough understanding continuations? Isn't it these advanced language features that attracted us to Racket/Scheme in the first place? At this point in time, I'm not completely sure the additional web server docs wouldn't just serve to short circuit the language learning process. Many thanks for the patience of those who waited for me to realize this ;-)</div><div><br>I think Neil makes an interesting point. It seems like Racket would appeal more to systems programmers coming from languages like C/C++ than it would to the Java/Python/Ruby/PHP/Perl/etc. crowd. Racket in general has a much higher price of entry than your average scripting language. I mean no offense to web developers. I just think Racket/Scheme requires quite a bit more effort and commitment than most would be willing to make.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Gerry<br><br><br><br><blockquote class="reply_block" dir="LTR" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 1em; padding-left: 1em; font-size: 13px; font-family: tahoma,helvetica,sans-serif;"><hr size="1">-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Racket Noob" <racketnoob@hotmail.com><br>To: users@racket-lang.org<br>Date: 12/19/11 17:37<br>Subject: [racket] FW: Racket documentation for web development is just awful!<br><br>
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<br>From: matthias@ccs.neu.edu
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