<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> Sorry if you got this twice..... I think my first reply missed the list.<br><br>Well you will note that the first link was from an American source.<br><br>If you google "hi tech underclass" China comes up alot. <br><br>Then there is this<br><br>ABSTRACT<br> <br> The primary aim of this paper is to identify future help which can contribute<br> towards reducing the unemployment rate of graduates in Malaysia, especially those with<br> Computer Science Degrees. It does so by gaining initial insights into this problem<br> through two groups: graduates and employers. The data draws on why graduates are<br> unemployed from their own perspective as well as employers’ expectations towards the<br> new workforce. The study concludes with two striking observations. Firstly, the<br> graduates themselves feel that they are to be blamed for being unemployed. In addition,<br> the employers too feel similarly, so reinforcing graduates’ attitudes as one of the major<br> reasons for graduates’ unemployment.<br><br>link to the paper below.<br><br>http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ej8fSFctCRMJ:aabss.org/Perspectives2008/AABSS2008Article6NORSHIMAZSHAH.pdf+graduate+unemployment+computer+science&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjDKecXPDAO072-bMR-QpeeVE2OAouJBnyX8hFhKddBZOYkvX7w0gn4xOonMlWUzA3tQ9SD9-NqxCZFc19ZxxBvnHt9E_oRl4J56n6dM1Sn_a4A_QVWI7Gvn-DytljNRxK5IxAS&sig=AHIEtbRX6abLpTRll1r47KDYML4wdFWl6Q<br><br>To selectively quote<br><br>"While the situation in the United States may not be so dire, in truth few companies share Google's zeal for academic credentials when hiring new developers. "<br>.........<br>"To be sure, an advanced degree in computer science from a prestigious university such as Cal Tech, Carnegie-Mellon, or Stanford is still a valuable asset for any job-seeker. Companies such as IBM, Google, and Microsoft, which compete on the highest levels of the computing industry, rely on doctoral graduates for the groundbreaking R&D that forms the basis of their cutting-edge products. Smaller companies with less ambitious goals, on the other hand, may have little need for such specialized expertise, particularly if they aren't in the business of selling software."<br><br>I think those are killer arguments. <br><br>Unless you are headed for CS grad school or  are Google/Microsoft material (by ability or by being in a brand name school) nobody really cares about your CS degree.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Matthias said<br><br> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=unicode"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft SafeHTML"><base><div><br></div><div>Is this possibly a reflection on the UK system? </div><br><div>_________________________________________________<br><blockquote><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div class="ecxhmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> For list-related administrative tasks:<br> <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/users</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br> </body> </html>