<html><head><base href="x-msg://34/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>You are right. A fair-minded teacher would have acknowledged that a particular lecture is lifted from a single chapter in a book. Between 2001 and 2003 he seems to have figured it out. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:44 AM, wooks . wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> wooks wrote:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >>> I have just come across a set of lecture notes for a 2001 CS<br>> >>> course in an<br>> >>>>> American University that contain a significant amount of<br>> >>>>> plagiarism from a book by Michael Jackson (Software<br>> >>>>> Requirements and Specifications). In some instances whole<br>> >>>>> lectures were plagiarised to the extent that the lecturer did<br>> >>>>> not even bother to change the examples. I wonder what he will<br>> >>>>> say when next a student presents him with an assignment that<br>> >>>>> consists of wikipedia entries.<br>> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >>> This does not sound like plagiarism to me.<br>> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I thought you were supposed to acknowledge your source when you did<br>> > that sort of thing. Would it be plagiarism if a student did it?<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> A lecturer, unlike a student, is typically not presenting original work<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> and being assessed on its originality. It would be plagiarism if I took<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> examples from a book and passed them off as my own work in a technical<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> talk or in a textbook from which I were to get royalties.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> That said, it is good practice to acknowledge sources. You don't get the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> whole context with slides -- the lecturer may have acknowledged the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> source orally, as I often do. One instance where I don't do this right<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> away is if the source also contains examples I am using as assignment<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> questions. I have, in such circumstances, prepared a "sources" sheet<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> available after the final exam. --PR<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> One might also want to consult the syllabus for the course as well, of course.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Robby<br>><br><div><div><br><div>This was his page for the 2001 course</div><div><br><div><a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s01/lectures/">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s01/lectures/</a></div><div><br></div><div>No mentioned of Jacksons book in any of the links although he does mention 2 other books in I supposed what could loosely be called a reading list. Lecture 3 and 4 are entirely lifted from Jacksons book. So is a good portion (because I haven't looked exhaustively) of lecture 5. I see he is now claiming copyright on material that has been substantially lifted.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s01/lectures/lecture05.pdf">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s01/lectures/lecture05.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Fast forward  to 2003 (I stumbled upon this by using a different search engine when preparing to post)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s03/lectures/lecture11.pdf">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kena/classes/6448/s03/lectures/lecture11.pdf</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>He's switched textbooks for his Requirements material and the new textbook has been very prominently acknowledged.?!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><hr>We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/" target="_new">Tell us now</a>_________________________________________________<br> For list-related administrative tasks:<br> <a href="http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme">http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>