<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> <div><br></div>> <br>> Owen Astrachan? It takes a 'professor of the teaching profession' to <br>> tell the world what Knuth said in 1965? I wonder what this tells us <br>> about wikipedia and CS education.<br>> <br><br><div>It's the most detailed information on the issues raised so far.</div><div><br></div><div>Is the real problem wikipedia or the fact that most students don't bother reading what they plagiarise.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: fixed-width, monospace; font-size: 12px; ">> In case you're wondering: Knuth, vol 3, page 111 original edition. <br><BR><br><BR>He isn't going to help the people that I am teaching.<BR></span></div><div><br></div><div>> </div><div>> Pictures for teaching a bad algorithm and fancy animations that cost a <br>> good amount of money to produce make things WORSE not better. Think <br>> about it. No design recipe needed.<br>> <br><br></div><div>Well it engaged my students and got them interested in seeing how it's implemented.</div><div><br></div><div>It also provides me with a vehicle for introducing do and arrays both of which they need  to learn.</div><div><br></div><div>Ticks enough of my boxes. </div> <br /><hr />Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/' target='_new'>Tell us now</a></body> </html>