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<br><div><div>On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">2. Last week, I had a private exchange with a person close to core PLT. The email basically said that during a consulting presentation with a major industrial software producer, one of the attendees got up and said "it is way to expensive to use object in (this) area of business. We use records and functions." I wouldn't be surprised if this is true and becomes more true so as companies that create networked software discover the cost of moving back and forth (serialize and unserialize).</font></p> </blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>That reminds me of a similar argument over whether or not XML is overly verbose. Many organizations are moving toward web services rather than Java RMI, and application servers offer built-in features for exposing EJBs through web services. So it's the same thing: cost of seralization/deserialization. Taking it a step further: middleware products often employ proprietary protocols internally (that is to say between network nodes running the same middleware producy)<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>"In the human mind, one-sidedness has </div><div>always been the rule and many-sidedness the</div><div> exception. Hence, even in revolutions of </div><div>thought, one part of the truth usually sets while</div><div> another rises."</div><div>--John Stuart Mill</div><div><br></div><div><div><a href="http://www.gwoodhouse.com">http://www.gwoodhouse.com</a></div><div><a href="http://GregWoodhouse.ImageKind.com">http://GregWoodhouse.ImageKind.com</a></div><div><br></div></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br></body></html>