[racket] Common Lisp or Racket?

I'm wondering who are the target readers for Realm. Is it written for kids?
I have already spent some time in Racket and want to read some idiomatic
Racket code. Is it a suitable book?

Thanks,
Ben


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Matthias Felleisen <matthias at ccs.neu.edu>wrote:

>
> Lawrence, let me supplement Alex's answer. if you have programmed before,
> dive right into Realm. If it is your first real adventure in programming,
> take the time to work through HtDP. -- Matthias
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alexander McLin <alex.mclin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Racket is truely a great and cleaner Lisp. It's carved out its own path
> that I find quite attractive and am enjoying my forays into Racket.
> >
> > I would recommend you just get started with The Little Schemer to get a
> taste, move on to How To Design Programs. There is a Coursera course that
> uses HTDP, although I haven't taken it myself, is probably easier to stick
> with than going through HTDP on your own. Realm of Racket is a nice book
> but best read after you've already had some experience with a Lisp dialect.
> >
> > Find or plan a project using Racket as your main coding language to help
> you use and grow with it. For example I'm using Racket to develop programs
> for the Coursera Bioinformatics Algorithm course.
> >
> > However, I want to tell you that Common Lisp resources has plenty of
> valuable information to learn even if you don't end up using CL regularly.
> I'm not really a CL user but I still read a lot of CL books for interesting
> Lisp history and techniques.
> >
> > Racket is also especially nice that it has a strong academic and
> theoretical community with high quality written papers which are good
> source of material to understand more about language design and usage.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm your typical newbie who is hand-wringing over what direction to go
> in the general functional programming world. Lisp, Scheme, or Haskell?
> >
> > Of late I've been trying to get through the Barski book, "Land of Lisp,"
> but I'm really seeing now why Scheme was created: CL seems to have a ton of
> gnarl that is part-functional, part-whatever, leaving me wondering and
> neurotic. And so I'm trying to understand some esoteric, arcane Lisp
> printing/file management weirdness -- which I'm told is not proper
> functional style -- after I've just been introduced to yet another CL map
> variation, after (funcall thunk). So I guess I'd like your advice vis-a-vis
> Racket. Q: Is Racket "cleaner," or is full of pork too? Or have I just got
> the wrong book for a beginner?
> >
> > I understand that Barski is slavishly following the "let's get real
> stuff done" philosophy, but I'm not up to speed with functional yet to even
> know what's going on. Is your "Realm of Racket" better at this? I feel like
> I'm spinning my wheels at this point. . . .
> >
> > LB
> >
> >
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