[racket] An elm-like racket language?

I don't think I'll need the GUI bindings, since I'm mostly using my own GUI
system (just a big openGL canvas%).  I imagine that I could just have my
system generate events and create behaviors on its own and just use the
update model.  Is there anything stopping me from being able to just
`(require frtime)` and use all the reactive stuff?

Philip Monk


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Gregory Cooper <ghcooper at gmail.com> wrote:

> Similarly to what Shriram said, I think a big problem with FrTime is that
> it's monolithic. It could (in my opinion) be greatly improved if the core
> update model were decoupled from any language extensions, global state, or
> threads, i.e., made into something that could be independently
> instantiated, tested, and combined with other libraries. This would make it
> more modular, easier to understand and maintain, etc.
>
> Greg
>
> PS. As far as I know the GUI bindings do still work...  :-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi <sk at cs.brown.edu>wrote:
>
>> I think the core stuff will continue to work fine; I imagine the GUI
>> bindings have ossified by now.
>>
>> You may actually find it useful to look at some of the examples on the
>> Flapjax site (www.flapjax-lang.org). There, we were actively trying to
>> convey an idea to a community that thought didn't think that way.
>> FrTime was written for Schemers, the first cousins of functional
>> programmers, so we didn't think we needed to explain much. (Though
>> there are still some interesting demos in the distro.)
>>
>> The one thing I wish we'd done was figured out a really, really clean
>> way to have just a part of the program be reactive, and the rest of it
>> be normal. We talked about this, and at some point Greg even
>> implemented a macro that let you "inject reactivity" into an
>> expression (so to speak). I don't know it's status. It's a question
>> I'm starting to reopen in my head in Pyret.
>>
>> Shriram
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Philip Monk <pcmonk at asu.edu> wrote:
>> > I've been interested in FRP for a while, but I haven't yet found a way
>> to
>> > learn it, and I'm thinking FrTime might be a good way.  I'm the kind of
>> guy
>> > who learns stuff best by integrating them into my projects, and I'm
>> working
>> > on a project in Racket right now that seems like it could benefit.  How
>> hard
>> > would it be to integrate frtime into an existing project?  I assume
>> that I
>> > would create most of my own signals and whatnot, but it looks like I
>> should
>> > be able to use the same update mechanism even without using #lang
>> FrTime.
>> >
>> > Are there any particular docs and/or code I should read (aside from the
>> > basic docs online and your paper)?  Any tips?
>> >
>> > Philip Monk
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi <sk at cs.brown.edu
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Dan,
>> >>
>> >> I don't think anyone is using FrTime, because nobody in the Racket
>> >> community really expressed much interest in it, so it didn't gain
>> >> enough momentum. I concluded that the kind of person who likes Racket
>> >> is perfectly happy with Racket's existing GUI libraries, and FrTime
>> >> was solving a non-problem for them.
>> >>
>> >> That said, a few people have given it a whirl, suggested a bug, or
>> >> provided an enhancement. It just hasn't had anywhere near the level of
>> >> sustained interest as Racket.
>> >>
>> >> Does that make sense?
>> >>
>> >> Shriram
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