[racket] Dynamic Require of Syntax

  Awesome.  Thanks for the answers everyone.  I'm probably going to end up
doing a namespace-require on the arbitrary code within a new namespace and
then use eval to test any macros within it.

Cody


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Ryan Culpepper <ryanc at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:

> The answer is roughly "that is not possible". In general, the meaning of a
> macro cannot be represented by a run-time value (but see below), so if you
> want to do something reflection-based with macros, you probably need to
> change your design to deal with terms (represented by syntax objects)
> instead of values.
>
> Actually, it does make sense to talk about the run-time value that
> corresponds to a macro in the case of identifier macros---macros that can
> be used like variables. For example, if you use 'contract-out' to provide a
> variable 'f' with a contract, it actually creates an auxiliary identifier
> macro and provides that as 'f'. The expansion of the provided 'f' macro
> fills in the negative blame part of the contract with the module where the
> expansion occurred and applies the contract to the original 'f' variable.
>
> That's the situation handled by the extension of 'dynamic-require' to
> macros. So doing
>
>   (dynamic-require mod macro-name)
>
> is approximately the same as
>
>   (parameterize ((current-namespace (make-empty-base-namespace)))
>     (namespace-require mod)
>     (eval macro-name))
>
> (except that it uses 'namespace-attach-module' instead of just
> 'namespace-require'). If 'macro-name' happens to be a macro that acts like
> a variable, then 'eval' produces a value. Otherwise, if it's something like
> 'define' or 'match' or 'for/list', you get an error, and it's exactly the
> same error you would get if you wrote something like
>
>   #lang racket
>   for/list
>
> What to do next depends on what you want to do with the macros.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> On 02/01/2013 02:57 AM, Dan Grossman wrote:
>
>>
>> Cody and I would love an answer to this question from 1.5 months ago if
>> anybody can point us in the right direction and/or ask us to clarify the
>> question.  Or if the answer is "that is not possible" then we'll do
>> something else.
>>
>> Much thanks!
>>
>> --Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Cody Schroeder <codeblack08 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:codeblack08 at gmail.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>        I'm in a position that I would like to use dynamic-require
>>     <http://docs.racket-lang.org/**reference/Module_Names_and_**
>> Loading.html#(def._((quote._~**23~25kernel)._dynamic-require)**)<http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/Module_Names_and_Loading.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._dynamic-require))>>
>> to
>>
>>     gain access to all of the provides in a module.  This is quite
>>     straightforward for normal procedures, but I also want this to
>>     include syntax.  However, I get this error when trying to
>>     dynamically require the blah macro from my test module:
>>
>>     (dynamic-require "test.rkt" 'blah)
>>     blah: use does not match pattern: (blah body) in: blah
>>
>>        From the spec, it says that "If the module exports provided as
>>     syntax, then a use of the binding is expanded and evaluated in a
>>     fresh namespace to which the module is attached" when using
>>     dynamic-require.  I don't understand how it's being used, though.
>>
>>        Is there a way to use dynamic-require how I want?  Is there a
>>     better way?
>>     Cody
>>
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