[plt-scheme] HtDP lectures?

> Okay, so what part of Todd's and Matthias's responses didn't make
> sense?  It feels like you quoted a message as if to respond to it, but
> instead ended up completely ignoring it.

Hmm, I don't think I've completely understood your message mate, but I'll take
it as a request for me to pay attention to Todd's reply. I think I got
his point that the
professors don't feel secure that they could replicate what they do in
class in a different
media (video).
I was just pointing out my opinion that I, and some other people that I
recommended you guys work to, would find it very valuable not just to
the PLT community,
but perhaps a lot more who are interested in CS but lack, for
different reasons, the capacity
to go to a college or university.

> Also, the SICP videos were (I believe) originally made for a corporate
> sponsor, HP.  Any of you willing to sponsor?

Yup, it was HP. I don't particularly know how to solve this question,
perhaps a solution
could be to find a sponsor in the same form as Abelson and Sussman
did, but frankly I'm
way out of my league here. But hey, if someone sets a found I'll
gladly donate to it.


> Finally, we live in a much more IP-restricted and privacy-conscious
> era.  It would be interesting, but not necessarily in a positive way,
> to hear how Brown feels about having one of their professors (IP) and
> classes (privacy) videotaped and then broadcast for free (IP) over the
> Internet (privacy).

Hmmm, as someone else pointed out, MIT, Boston and others are doing the same,
but that is a matter for the university alone. I know that both
Sussman and Albeson were very
conscious about the value of sharing information, as demonstrated here:

   "Sussman and Abelson also have been an important part of the Free Software
   Movement, including serving on the Board of Directors of the Free Software
   Foundation, and releasing MIT/GNU Scheme as free software even before
   the Free Software Foundation existed."[1]

So they probably pushed for the free (as in speech) format. Again,
that is a matter for you guys
and your department.
Like someone else pointed out, the price of the task for both the
hardware and the software involved
in the task has dropped, and I would say exponentially since then, so
the cost would be way cheaper.
Perhaps the university could be convinced that the publicity generated
would worth the effort, hech,
from my point of view it would be worth the effort.
Anyway, it was just a +1 to the idea ;)

[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Jay_Sussman
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi <sk at cs.brown.edu> wrote:

>
> Also, the SICP videos were (I believe) originally made for a corporate
> sponsor, HP.  Any of you willing to sponsor?
>
> Finally, we live in a much more IP-restricted and privacy-conscious
> era.  It would be interesting, but not necessarily in a positive way,
> to hear how Brown feels about having one of their professors (IP) and
> classes (privacy) videotaped and then broadcast for free (IP) over the
> Internet (privacy).
>
> Shriram
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Eduardo Bellani <ebellani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Speaking as a guy who is recommending HTDP to a lot of friends who are
>> curious about my job and
>> life, and agreeing that the SICP
>> lectures could use a update into the HTDP world specifically
>> addressing all the issues mentioned at the SICSC.
>> My perception is that it would be a hit so +1 on the idea.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Matthias Felleisen
>> <matthias at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Amen.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Todd O'Bryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> This suggestion comes up every once in a while, but the master
>>>> teachers in the group aren't sure they could replicate the interactive
>>>> nature of the class in a good way.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Marek Kubica <marek at xivilization.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I understand HtDP was created to adress some issues people had with
>>>>> SICP. I'm currently watching the SICP video lectures and indeed, they
>>>>> focus more on math that I'd like to furthermore they are quite old and
>>>>> of poor audio/video quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> To put things short: are there any HtDP lectures as there are for SICP?
>>>>> As far as I understand HtDP is used for teaching, so maybe there are
>>>>> recordings of the lecures available somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Marek
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