[plt-scheme] One small and one big issue with DrScheme

Well, thank you Robby for C-j and you were correct for the preference
settings that was carried over to v4.

P.S.: Wow! the speed and quality of responses on mailing lists like this one
never stop to amaze me compared to typical MS or Java related forums. ;-)

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Robby Findler <robby at cs.uchicago.edu>
wrote:

> Well, its a known fact of life when dealing with software that is
> using more than the available memory on the system. I'm sure there are
> better and worse strategies for dealing with that, some of which could
> be improved in drscheme and some of which would have to be done at the
> windows level.
>
> Robby
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Jos Koot <jos.koot at telefonica.net> wrote:
> > You said "The entire system has problems" That's true. Even after a
> > succesfull stop and leaving DrScheme, my system may continue thrashing
> for
> > some time. It may very well be a Windows problem rather than a PLT
> problem.
> > I don't know.
> > Jos
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robby Findler" <
> robby at cs.uchicago.edu>
> > To: "Jos Koot" <jos.koot at telefonica.net>
> > Cc: "Matthias Felleisen" <matthias at ccs.neu.edu>; "budu"
> > <nbuduroi at gmail.com>; <plt-scheme at list.cs.brown.edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [plt-scheme] One small and one big issue with DrScheme
> >
> >
> >> Yes, I've had that experience too. I find that the keyboard is a
> >> little bit more reliable, but in general when thrashing is going on,
> >> the entire system has problems.
> >>
> >> Do you find that this is happening when you're using the memory limits?
> >>
> >> Robby
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Jos Koot <jos.koot at telefonica.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As you probably know, I am addicted to PLT Scheme, its IDE included.
> >>> I hate typing shell commands. With PLT's IDE I can avoid those
> commands..
> >>> Allow me to mention, though, that the stop button does not easily
> >>> (sometimes
> >>> not at all) repond when the garbage collector is thrashing.
> >>> This is no problem for me, but may be you want to know.
> >>> (This pertains to Windows XP Home and to all versions of DrScheme I
> ever
> >>> downloaded and to pretty-big, #lang scheme, #!r6rs and more.)
> >>> Jos
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Felleisen"
> >>> <matthias at ccs.neu.edu>
> >>> To: "budu" <nbuduroi at gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: <plt-scheme at list.cs.brown.edu>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [plt-scheme] One small and one big issue with DrScheme
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, unlike all other "pedagogic" IDEs, DrScheme has a reliable STOP
> >>>> button for infinite loops. (It's possible that others have caught up,
> >>>> but I
> >>>> am sure we were first.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Furthermore, you can and should set the memory limit for REPLs so
>  that
> >>>> the memory limit for the REPL thread is distinct from the memory
>  limit
> >>>> for
> >>>> the whole system and doesn't take it down. You need to  teach both
> ideas
> >>>> to
> >>>> beginners eventually: computations consume space,  and infinite
> >>>> computations
> >>>> consume unbounded space, plus you as a  programmer should learn to set
> >>>> the
> >>>> limits in your context.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the feedback -- Matthias
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 4, 2008, at 10:43 AM, budu wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi, I'm an occasional DrScheme user (normally I use Emacs) and there
> >>>>> is some little things I don't like about it. One is keyboard
> >>>>> shortcuts, which I never been able to change. I found out recently
> >>>>> about the "Enable keybindings in menus" options, it's great, but I'm
> >>>>> still missing some of my favorite shortcuts, mainly C-j for newline.
> >>>>> Maybe the answer lies into the Help Desk, but it totally confuse me,
> >>>>> it seems like I'm never able to find what I'm searching for.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bigger issue now is about DrScheme not being as solid as I'd like
> >>>>> it to be. Maybe I'm too much used to Emacs, because when I use its
> >>>>> REPL it never crash no matter what. I've lost some code (without any
> >>>>> importance) this morning because I did try to run a function that
> >>>>> generate an infinite loop and it crashed DrScheme with an out of
> >>>>> memory exception. When considering that this IDE is geared toward
> >>>>> beginners, I find it strange that it can't sustain even a mere
> >>>>> infinite loop. Maybe that's the price to pay for the great debugging
> >>>>> features DrSceme have.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, I'm a little late for this but congratulation to the PLT devs
> for
> >>>>> version 4, it's a really great release.
> >>>>>
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