[plt-scheme] Please help test version 359.100
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From: Matthias Felleisen
To: Jacob Matthews
Cc: Robby Findler ; plt-scheme at list.cs.brown.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [plt-scheme] Please help test version 359.100
I don't think this is relevant. The true question is whether
(+ (for-each add1 '()) (for-each sub1 '()))
steps to
(+ some-value some-value)
or to
(+ some-value some-different-value)
I believe that the second one is the case already. -- Matthias
Then why do I get: (eq? (for-each add1 '()) (for-each sub1 '())) --> #t ?
(version 359.100-svn4nov2006) Greetings, Jos Koot
On Nov 13, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Jacob Matthews wrote:
> On Nov 13, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
>
>> Is "some object" allowed to be multiple values or not? That text
>> suggests not.
>
> "Types are associated with values (also called objects) rather than
> with variables" (section 1.1) seems to be the only definition of
> what an 'object' is. I think it's clear that they are saying that
> values are also called objects, and that by the normal rules of
> English we can conclude that the singular 'object' means the same
> thing as the singular 'value'. So the question becomes, are
> multiple values the same thing as a single value? The report seems
> to think not (I'm going here by the descriptions of the values and
> call-with-values functions in section 6.4), though it plays its
> usual trick of simply not defining what happens if a context
> expects a single value and it receives multiple ones.
>
> Applying this back to the original question, I think we have to
> conclude that for-each is supposed to be able to be called in
> contexts that expect exactly one value. In Schemes like PLT Scheme
> where contexts that expect one value signal an error if they
> receive some other number, then it's a violation of R5RS for for-
> each to behave the way 359.100 did; but for Schemes like Bigloo
> that have coercion rules that take a multi-value return to a single-
> value context, it's not a violation.
>
> -jacob
>
> (I actually wrote up a version of this before and then deleted it,
> thinking it was too technical for anybody to care about ... looks
> like I was wrong. :) )
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