<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>ROAR is something like a second step but we don't assume that you have seen HtDP. </div><div><br></div><div>HtDP is not about the examples but about [the] design [recipe] and as such truly novel. It isn't about Racket either, otherwise we'd use Racket in the book. As for 'interest', let freshmen judge. I'd prefer HtDP over ROAR any day. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your interest. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:28 PM, WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Sounds good to buy this book and I will do.<div style="">Will the book take the place of 'How to design program' in which examples are quite simple and uninteresting even for the freshmen?</div><div style=""> <br></div><div style="">My translate LOL with the intention of exploring the racket way.</div><div style="">Few resources could be the guider.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Matthias Felleisen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthias@ccs.neu.edu" target="_blank">matthias@ccs.neu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Realm of Racket is not a translation of Land of Lisp, though it borrows ideas from the latter for about 1/2 of the book. The ROAR code is far more functional and GUI than LOL. -- Matthias</div> <div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:19 AM, WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">What a pity, I did not know this book before.<div> I've been translating the source code of Land of Lisp using the racket way.</div><div>I just finish the Grand Theft Wumpus game. </div></div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Jay McCarthy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jay.mccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.mccarthy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Greg Hendershott<br> <<a href="mailto:greghendershott@gmail.com" target="_blank">greghendershott@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > 1. I'm really excited about the book, which I'll buy.<br> ><br> > 2. Issuing a release solely to ship code for a book:<br> ><br> >   a. Seems unusual (to me), in general.<br> ><br> >   b. Plus right now, message seems at odds with the new package<br> > manager and plan to move away from shipping monolithic collects?<br> ><br> >   Admittedly that plan isn't in effect yet. But code for a book is a<br> > use case that today's package manager supports AFAICT. So why accrete<br> > another collection, is the reaction.<br> <br> </div>The problem is that the book has "collects/realm" printed in it and<br> was designed simultaneously with the package system, so it wasn't<br> clear to make it a package, how to describe getting it, etc.<br> <br> Jay<br> <div><div><br> > p.s. I'm sharing an observation casually, not stating an objection angrily.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Matthias Felleisen<br> > <<a href="mailto:matthias@ccs.neu.edu" target="_blank">matthias@ccs.neu.edu</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> We will release Racket v5.3.5 next week. The purpose of the<br> >> release is to include the Realm of Racket collection with the<br> >> v5.3.4 release, because the book is about to appear.<br> >><br> >> The release will strictly be built from<br> >><br> >> -- Racket v5.3.4<br> >> -- collects/realm as currently found in git head<br> >><br> >> We will __not__ make any other changes.<br> >><br> >> Eli has worked out a process and will launch it asap. We will<br> >> conduct a recursive diff of all .rkt files and we will run<br> >> basic checks to ensure the integrity of the release bundle.<br> >> If you're willing to help with these checks, please stay tuned.<br> >><br> >> ------------------------------------------------------------<br> >> DRAFT RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT:<br> >><br> >> Racket version 5.3.5 is now available from<br> >><br> >>  <a href="http://racket-lang.org/" target="_blank">http://racket-lang.org/</a><br> >><br> >> This is a special-purpose release to match the arrival of<br> >> "Realm of Racket" in bookstores. Racket v.5.3.5 adds a<br> >> single collection<br> >><br> >> collects/realm/<br> >><br> >> to the v5.3.4 release. The new collection contains the source<br> >> code that readers of Realm may wish to use for experiments.<br> >> ------------------------------------------------------------<br> >><br> >> Comments welcome. -- Matthias<br> >> _________________________<br> >>   Racket Developers list:<br> >>   <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev</a><br> > _________________________<br> >   Racket Developers list:<br> >   <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev</a><br> <br> <br> <br> </div></div>--<br> Jay McCarthy <<a href="mailto:jay@cs.byu.edu" target="_blank">jay@cs.byu.edu</a>><br> Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University<br> <a href="http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay" target="_blank">http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay</a><br> <br> "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93<br> <div><div>_________________________<br>   Racket Developers list:<br>   <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> _________________________<br>  Racket Developers list:<br>  <a href="http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev" target="_blank">http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev</a><br></blockquote></div><br> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote></div><br></body></html>