<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Provided we also remove teachpacks/htdp/testing, there are no errors from setup-plt; so removal seems safe to me.<div><br></div><div>-Kathy</div><div><br><div><div>On 17 Mar 2009, at 3:19:14, Robby Findler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>What would happen if we threw it out now (on the trunk, not on the<br>release branch)?<br><br>Robby<br><br>On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matthias Felleisen<br><<a href="mailto:matthias@ccs.neu.edu">matthias@ccs.neu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Kathryn Gray wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 17 Mar 2009, at 1:53:33, Matthias Felleisen wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Kathryn Gray wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The test-engine/scheme-tests.ss can be used as a library by programs<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that aren't written in the teaching language currently; the test results<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">from this library appear in print statements instead of a window in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">DrScheme.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So does htdp/testing ... (test) . Why are we deprecating htdp/testing<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">again?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The functionality doesn't need to (and isn't) going away.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">All htdp/testing does is reexport items from the other library, but unlike<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">test-engine/scheme-tests it can easily be added by students as a teach pack.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If a student does this, and then calls (test) manually; all of their test<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">results appear twice. Why is this a desirable behavior to have? Why should<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">we be letting students add this as a teach pack?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I remembered that it was a re-export of functionality. I had forgotten about<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the testing-twice part.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Let's print "deprecated, require test-engine/scheme-tests" instead from<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">htdp/testing. And by 5.0 we throw it out.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks -- Matthias<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_________________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> For list-related administrative tasks:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <a href="http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-dev">http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-dev</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-Kathy</div></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>