<div dir="ltr">I found Chapter 6 of the Guide to be helpful with this material.<div> </div><div>Anthony <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Raoul Duke <<a href="mailto:raould@gmail.com">raould@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">hi, i'm a plt-clueless newbie trying to do some basic module stuff. i sorta figured out why things weren't working, but i still haven't managed to figure it all out yet and get it all working, so i'd like to ask for help! (A) comment on a newbie user experience: figuring out how to be able to write modules is way harder than it should be. i think it is due to: 1) how you write a module in a file depends on context. as i recently finally figured out, if you use "#lang scheme" then you do not use "(module..." [otherwise you get error messages which are not very helpful to the newbie :-]. 2) the documentation which a newbie finds by googling around for things like "plt scheme module" do not explain that; it was only out of sheer luck and desperation that i finally checked <a href="http://docs.plt-scheme.org/quick/#(part._.Modules)" target="_blank">http://docs.plt-scheme.org/quick/#(part._.Modules)</a>. 3) the complexity of the subject is probably the kind of thing that is hard to explain well in a static html/ascii form, rather than in person, and maybe plt scheme is 99% used in situations where there's a TA available? nevertheless if i ever figure out the nuances then hopefully future folks will google and stumble across this thread :-) (B) unfortunately, even though i now know why my use of "(module..." which is what the overwhelming majority of all docs i found told me to use was not right given that i had #lang scheme in there, which i was also doing because seemingly most all the intro docs told me to, i'm *still* lost as to how to make a module that works. if i remove the "#lang scheme" and try to (require scheme) i still get errors (like "expand: unbound variable in module in: new" because i'm trying to use scheme/gui/base's new frame%, new canvas%, etc.), and if i try to use "#lang scheme" instead then i don't see how i can actually create a new namespace for my stuff. any edification would be appreciated. thank you! _________________________________________________  For list-related administrative tasks:  <a href="http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme" target="_blank">http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme</a> </blockquote></div> </div></div>