[racket-dev] proposal: `data' collection

From: Eli Barzilay (eli at barzilay.org)
Date: Thu Jul 8 13:46:29 EDT 2010

On Jul  8, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
> This sounds like we should give up on stratification. 

That was my first thought when I saw that mess: give up also on
distributing smaller packages, and dump the current distributions that
are used as sanity checks.  (Given that I usually end up in long
threads that are a result of breaking these dependencies, I'd
certainly like that.)

But I still think that giving up on any organization will only make
things worse, and I don't want that to happen.

> On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:
> > On Jul  6, Petey Aldous wrote:
> >> That would be interesting and it would not be terribly difficult to
> >> instrument setup-plt to do it.
> > 
> > There's no reason to do that -- the data is all there in the dep
> > files.  It just needs to be trimmed for the collection name instead of
> > the full paths.
> > 
> > I'm attaching a file with a list of all toplevel collections and a has
> > table that maps collection names to what they depend on.  I tried to
> > visualize this with graphviz in a number of ways -- and there was
> > nothing that producing a graph that would make sense.  I then wrote
> > some code and there's two groups of collections -- one huge ball of
> > code that is all inter-dependent, and then a bunch of collections that
> > are nearly free of dependency problems.  The only problem in the
> > latter group is teachpacks and deinprogramm which form a cycle.
> > 
> > So, the unproblematic set of collects is:
> > 
> >  2htdp, afm, algol60, combinator-parser, datalog, defaults,
> >  embedded-gui, eopl, frtime, gui-debugger, guibuilder, handin-client,
> >  handin-server, hierlist, honu, lazy, macro-debugger, make, mysterx,
> >  mzcom, plai, plot, preprocessor, racklog, redex, repo-time-stamp,
> >  schemeunit, sgl, sirmail, slatex, srpersist, swindle,
> >  test-box-recovery, tex2page, waterworld, games, tests, meta
> > 
> > it would work fine to install them one by one in this order, except
> > for {teachpack, deinprogramm} which are their own set.
> > 
> > The problematic set of collects is:
> > 
> >  racket, at-exp, browser, compiler, config, drracket, drscheme,
> >  dynext, errortrace, ffi, file, framework, graphics, help, htdp,
> >  html, icons, lang, launcher, mred, mrlib, mzlib, mzscheme, net,
> >  openssl, parser-tools, planet, profile, r5rs, r6rs, rackunit, raco,
> >  reader, readline, rnrs, s-exp, scheme, scribble, scribblings,
> >  scriblib, setup, slideshow, srfi, stepper, string-constants, syntax,
> >  syntax-color, test-engine, texpict, trace, typed, typed-scheme,
> >  unstable, version, web-server, wxme, xml
> > 
> > <deps.rktd>

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